Talk:Main apps 2008 KDE
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1) For Office-Drawing there ought to be Krita main option (it is KDE, isn't it?)
2) For Office-TasksManagement: KPlato?
3) For Internet-FileTransfer: what is kftp? Do you mean KFTPgrabber?
4) For Internet-WebBrowsers: shouldn't Konqueror be main option (it is KDE, isn't it?)
Anne: Firefox is Mandriva default web browser as it's quite widely spread on several platforms
Marek: OK, then. Though, as with KDE kdebase is installed, so probably user has Konqueror anyway... :-)
5) For Sciences-Astronomy: KStars?
6) For Sciences-Chemistry: Kalzium?
7) For Sciences-DataVisualization: Kst?
8) For Sciences-Mathematics: Kig? KmPlot?
IIRC all of the above programs are part of kdeedu package. That package should indeed be installed by default in KDE if user selected Education category during installation. - Frederik Himpe 00:32, 20 July 2007 (CEST)
Agreed, but as far as I remember, there was always some problem to include kdeedu to default installation, mostly because it's quite big and CD has just such capacity... - Marek Laane
9) Kexi is now in Development-CodeGenerators, shouldn't it be Office-Databases or smth like?
Concerning Kaffeine we should carefully keep on testing its stability and feature set. Mandriva replaced it by kmplayer for 2007.1 because of several problems in Kaffeine. The current version in Cooker, fixes several of these problems (no more crashes when embedded in Konqueror thanks to xcb, correctly stops screensaver when playing full screen, etc...), but there still seem to be problems left (in my experience xine based players have trouble playing some file formats such as some wmv3 or mjpeg files than mplayer, although one has to say that Mandriva's kmplayer also uses xine by default). We'll surely have to keep an eye on the evolution of those two, and take a definitive decision later on. - Frederik Himpe 00:46, 20 July 2007 (CEST)
In Multimedia-Graphics we surely need Digikam for support of digital cameras, and it has a usable simple photo editing program (showfoto). Personally I think we also need to install gwenview, as it has great Konqueror integration (easily zoom in and out pictures you encountered during web browsing with Konqueror for example, but also in file manager mode) and is better in browsing photo collections in random directories (digikam browsers need the pictures to be organised in a certain directory which its indexes in a database). - Frederik Himpe 00:47, 20 July 2007 (CEST)
Most people don't want gwenview by default, but a simpler image viewer. See http://wikipoll.free.fr/mediawiki-1.6.5/index.php?title=Mandriva-Centric_Polls. OT, but there's really a need for a good voting system here... yoho 14:18, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Multimedia player
I use extensively VLC and have yet to find something it can't read; last test was playing *.3gp videos from my mobile phone's camera and vlc wins hands down on that ! VLC is in active development and is Desktop agnostic; so please do not restict choice between kaffeine and kmplayer.
- The problem with programs like VLC is that they probably do not integrate perfectly in the KDE environment. For example, does VLC add an entry to the dialog which pops up automatically in KDE when you insert a video DVD? On the other hand, maybe if VLC does not do this itself, we maybe can create an extra package containing the desktop files for this integration. This is currently also a problem with kmplayer by the way (http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=30830). Only Kaffeine does this correct by default. It's something we have to keep in mind when choosing the default player, to prevent the problem in 2007.1 that a dialog pops up, but actually no usable program is presented to play the DVD. - Frederik Himpe 14:46, 21 July 2007 (CEST)
- IMHO KMPlayer is a good choice, although for videos I prefer the richer interface of smplayer.--Helge Hielscher_0 17:37, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
The gimp is not very well integrated either compared to krita... So why not vlc ? yoho 14:18, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
Why exactly is default for Multimedia-Graphics Gimp? Shouldn't it be Krita for KDE users which IMHO is as capable as GIMP (or even more) and very well integrated in desktop? - Marek Laane, 10.09.2007
- Sorry, but Krita is far from being as usable as GIMP. There are a few things what Krita can do what GIMP can't, but overall Krita 1.6 is a pain to use (even compared to GIMP what sucks compared to Photoshop).--Helge Hielscher_0 17:37, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
